FROM CLASSROOM TO DORM ROOM: SERVING SURVIVORS WITH DISABILITIES ON CAMPUSES >> SPEAKER: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining our webinar today. I'm Ashley Brompton with the Center on Victimization and Safety at the Vera Institute of Justice. I would like to welcome you to today's webinar. We are pleased to bring you this webinar as part of our 2019 End Abuse of People with Disabilities webinar series. This webinar will begin in 5 minutes. If you have a question or need any assistance, please send us a message in the question and answer pod, which is at the bottom right-hand corner of your screen. Also, if you would like to download a copy of the power point, you can do so by clicking on the file you wish to download in the download files pod at the bottom of your screen and clicking download file. Again, we will be getting started in just about 5 minutes. >> SPEAKER: Hello, everyone. We'll be getting started in just a couple of minutes. 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If you would like to download a copy of today's power point presentation, you may do so by going to the pod at the bottom of your screen, select the document, and click the download file button. We will be recording today's webinar. A link to the recording, as well as the power point, transcript, and survey will be e-mailed to all participants following the webinar. The webinar recording will also be posted on the End Abuse of People with Disabilities website within one week. A record of attendance will be available for download at the end of the webinar. Our presenter today is Kaitlin Shetler. Kaitlin has her masters of social work from the University of Tennessee Knoxville. She works for the Vera Institute of Justice as a senior program associate providing technical assistance for the Office on Violence Against Women's Disability Grant Program and the Disability and Deaf Resource Center. Before coming to Vera, Kaitlin was the director of Disability Services at Lipscomb University in Nashville, Tennessee for five years. She provided disability awareness training to faculty and staff, developed policies, and ensured compliance with federal and state disability law, and served over 600 students by providing them with access to social and educational accommodations. She also served as a Title IX investigator, working with students experiencing sexual assault, stalking, harassment, and discrimination. Kaitlin currently lives in Nashville, Tennessee with her husband and 3-year-old daughter, who enjoys dressing up as a princess, eating cupcakes instead of green beans, and singing when she should be sleeping. Thanks, Kaitlin, and I will now turn the presentation over to you. >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Thank you so much, Ashley. I really appreciate it, and I'm really excited to talk to you guys today, um, about serving survivors with disabilities on campus. Um, so, thank you so much. I was the director of Disability Services at a medium-size university for about five years, worked closely with our Title IX office during that time. I served as an investigator and a trainer, and I also served on the Behavioral Intervention Team on campus. So, I'm presenting today from a context of a social worker and also a person with a disability. I hope that today's content will give you some practical tips in serving sexual assault survivors with disabilities on college campuses. Um, so, before we begin, I do want to get a sense of who is with us today. I read a little bit in the chat pod, but I would love for you guys to answer this question. Are you a disability services provider? A Title IX coordinator or sexual assault provider? Or do you work in a different context, like a TA provider or in advocacy work? And if so, go ahead and let us know in the chat pod. I'm going to give you a few seconds to answer that, just so we know who's with us. Great. Thank you so much. It looks like we have a really good mix of people here. I hope that everybody can find something that's going to be helpful, and I'm going to leave some time for questions at the end of the presentation, just in case there's anything that I may have left out or something else that you would like to bring up. So, let's go ahead and move along. To set the stage for this discussion, I do think it's helpful for us to understand that disability is experienced as a college student, how is disability experienced as a college student. So, 20 percent of college students identify as having a disability, and these can include the following types of disabilities; learning disabilities, such as dyslexia, language processing disorder, and dysgraphia, ADHD, physical disabilities, and health disabilities, such as diabetes or cerebral palsy, autism, blind or low-vision, intellectual or developmental disabilities, autoimmune disorders, mental health conditions, such as depression, PTSD, and anxiety, deaf and hard of hearing students, and students with food allergies. So, it's important for us to note that this list is not exhaustive, nor do all people experiencing these things that I just mentioned identify as disabled, but this gives you a really good idea of who might be on campus. So, students with disabilities navigate college in various ways. Most institutions have, and all of them do, if they receive federal funding, a disability services office, where they can go and request accommodations. So, some schools have student-run organizations or disability cultural centers where they can access support and resources. There are often barriers that students with disabilities face, and these include attitudinal, physical, and institutional, and in the trauma field, there's the discussion around complex trauma and how experiencing marginalization due to holding multiple identities can occur. For example, being a student of color on campus is a different experience than being a white student, and when you add disability, gender, sexuality, and/or body type to that, experiences of marginalization and trauma have the ability to compound and create the need for specific and targeted solutions. Unfortunately, this presentation today is unable to address the whole and total scope of the needs experienced by different student survivors with disabilities, so know that what I talk about may or may not apply or may apply in a different way, depending upon the cultural context and the identity that someone holds. That said, most of what I say can be adapted in all of the communities that you work in. So, the other thing that's helpful to know before we get into the intersection of disability and victimization is how students with disabilities navigate college with accommodations. For students with disabilities who require accommodations, those accommodations can vary, depending on need. So, the list you see on your screen is not exhaustive, but it does give you a good idea of the different offerings available based upon disability and need. Students may use some of these in classes, but not all, or they may not even need these accommodations until a triggering event arises, so it's helpful to know that they're available when you work with a survivor with a disability. We know that 20 percent is the often cited statistic when discussing disability in college students, but this number is most likely higher for a few reasons. Disclosure is a personal choice, and there are many reasons a student may not disclose their disability to disability services. So, they may have a disability, but not need accommodations, they may have a disability and see accommodations as a Hoyle to their independence and resiliency, and they may, as in the case of many medical and law students, be worried that identifying as disabled will ruin their chances for graduation or a good internship, and it's really important to be aware of this dynamic. Many students with disabilities don't seek services until a traumatic event occurs, so it's at this point that they may require accommodations that they haven't had in the past. The emotional load of dealing with a sexual assault while managing one's disability may have implications for how a student subsequently performs in the classroom, how they relate to their peers, or how they interact in the dorm room. Since we're talking about the intersection of victimization and disability, it's also important to see how survivors and students with disabilities share some of the same challenges. While survivors of sexual assault have options of reporting or gaining support in college, like some students with disabilities, they may choose not to report or seek services due to stigma or fear of losing friends. This is especially true if the perpetrator is a peer. There can be often a fear of social repercussions and feelings of shame associated with the assault. When survivors with disabilities navigate college, their experience of being a person with a disability and being a survivor of sexual assault tends to distinguish them from individuals experiencing just one of those identities. Students with disabilities may have different perpetrators, so whether it be a personal care assistant or a residence life staff member or even a faculty member, students with disabilities can be at higher risk due to their perceived vulnerability. Survivors with disabilities may present trauma in different ways than survivors without disabilities, especially if one's disability affects language processing, following social cues, or already includes trauma, such as students with post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, or a mental health condition. So, a survivor with disability may also experience double the stigma, so they're not only a person who's experienced sexual assault, but also a person with a disability. Typically, campuses are not equipped to work at this intersection, and this also affects the connections students feel to other survivors and the access these students have to services, which leads us to the question of why are we actually talking about this, why did you come here today. Some of the questions that I usually hear surrounding this conversation often go like this; why are we talking about this? Aren't colleges doing a good job already of addressing sexual assault and harassment? Isn't this what the Title IX office is for? And aren't colleges legally required to provide services for people with disabilities? It seems like there's already enough support for students without focusing on this specific population. To all of this, I would absolutely disagree, and I think you guys would too. I recently did a quick Google search on the ten largest public universities and the ten largest private universities. What I found is not one of these 20 schools mentioned the intersection of disability and sexual assault. Title IX pages did not clearly indicate accommodations for students with disabilities, and disability services pages did not clearly link to sexual assault resources, and this mirrors what we see in research. There's a large gap in research regarding interventions and services for survivors with disabilities in college. The data that we have is limited, and we do have a few statistics. We know that, for example, 31.6 percent of females with disabilities, compared to 18.4 percent without, report experienced sexual victimization on campus. So, the National Council on Disability released a report in 2018 called Not on the Radar: Sexual Assault of College Students with Disability. It is a terrific, comprehensive report on the gaps that exist in research and practice around students with disabilities who experience sexual assault. So, you can see from the gaps outlined below that there are several opportunities for campuses to better serve this population, from implementing policies and procedures to fostering better collaboration, it's important for institutions to make this specific population a priority. Before we continue, there are four considerations that we must examine as we prepare to do this work. The first consideration is stigma. If students with disabilities don't see themselves represented in campus conversations around sexual assault, they may be too embarrassed to report, for fear that their disability will be on display. Stigma or fear of stigma keeps students with disabilities from seeking accommodations in the classroom. Add a sexual assault or traumatic event to the mix, and this could be especially difficult for a student worried about how they will be perceived by faculty and peers. The second consideration is access. Students with disabilities may choose not to report or seek help if they can't easily access the services provided to students without disabilities. Survivors with disabilities require accessible on-campus reporting protocols and considerations around accommodation. When counseling services or the Title IX office is inaccessible, survivors with disabilities are left to fend for themselves, and oftentimes, the result of this inaccessibility can be dangerous or deadly. The third consideration in this discussion revolves around inclusion. It's not enough to offer accessible services or accommodations. Students must know that they're there and that they're welcome to use them. When Title IX campaigns and materials or sexual assault programming doesn't mention disability or doesn't consider accessibility and planning, survivors with disabilities receive the message that they are not welcome in those spaces. So, a good example of this is prevention programming, such as take back the night. Is this an activity that's inclusive of people with disabilities? If not, why? And how can it be? The final consideration is responsiveness. There are students with disabilities who are not connected to disability services. If they seek services, are the resources available to them going to know how to work with their disability or offer up appropriate accommodations? What is the responsiveness of other resources and programs to students with disabilities? So, how can campuses and programs serve survivors with disabilities? One way to effectively meet the needs of survivors with disabilities is through providing clearly-stated and reasonable accommodations. While the Title IX office offers accommodations for students making a report, and while disability services often provides accommodations to students registered through their office, a survivor with a disability may fall through the cracks. They may or may not be registered with disability services, the need for accommodations, and these accommodations could include flexibility with attendance and deadlines, testing accommodations, dorm room accommodations, or the need for emotional support animals. There is this myth of the ideal or the typical survivor, just like there's this myth of the normal presentation of disability, and when these two collide, service providers must be willing to set aside biases and meet the student where they are. Survivors with disabilities often struggle with the stigmatization and ostracization due to their disability, thus they may be more aware of needing to mask when discussing their assault. This means that they may say they need less support than they really do, as not to be a burden to those helping them, and masking is something that people with disabilities are very adept at, and due to the stigma they experience because of their disability, they try as much as possible to, quote unquote, fit in with those that they see as abled. When accommodations aren't normalized and when access isn't prioritized, it's easy for survivors with disabilities to pretend that they don't have a disability when reporting their assault. This is also true when we look at the barriers a survivor with a disability encounters that keeps them from reporting. Disability can add an extra layer to the reporting process and may be abandoned by the survivor for fear of being lost in the mix, being retraumatized, or being accused of lying. If a deaf or hard of hearing student is not told that ASL interpreters are available to them, or if a student with dyslexia is not provided a reader or verbal instructions during the reporting process, or if a student with a mental health condition is assumed to be histrionic and dramatic, these students will most likely choose not to report their assault or seek healing services. The other piece to this that must be mentioned is examining faculty and staff perceptions around disability and sexual assault. How do faculty perceive students receiving accommodations? Do they think that these students are lying or lazy or don't deserve to be in college? Are they providing the accommodations just because they're legally required to or because they actually believe in the necessity of such a practice? One of the most important things to do when working with faculty and staff is to review existing trainings and professional development opportunities. So, what policies and procedures, as well as trainings, exist currently to assess and educate for biases? At the end of the day, the people interacting most with survivors with disabilities on campus will be their peers, their faculty, and their residence and student life staff members. A disability services office or a Title IX office or a counseling center can be as accessible as it wants to be, but without the buy-in from the rest of the campus, it'll be a hard journey to full inclusion. So, this is where I get to ask you a question. What barriers do you perceive as being the greatest to survivors with disabilities on campus or in your programs? So, if you don't work on a campus, what barriers do you think are the most impactful for survivors with disabilities? You can use the chat pod to answer, and we'll take a minute to read some of the responses, and some of these answers could be included on the ones on screen, so like faculty and staff perception, other students on campus, physical accessibility, barriers to finding services, virtual/printed material accessibility barriers to finding services, stigma, mandatory reporting. Let's take a second and see, as you're thinking about student survivors on campus with disabilities, what barriers do you perceive? Not knowing the process of how to report, I see that, definitely. Attitudes. Stigma. Your reaction from others on campus. I see somebody said not giving the resources in a form that they are able to read. I think this is very important, and I don't think a lot of people think through that. Issue with accessible buildings, I see that a lot in colleges too, where, um, offices start out being accessible, and then because of construction or staff turnover or some other reason, offices get moved before classes start into inaccessible buildings, and nobody has thought through how that impacts people with disabilities. Stigma, definitely. Um, I like this comment, attitudes, by AJ, if students feel like faculty have to be required to provide accommodations, they're less likely to report to faculty. So, we're going to talk about faculty in a second, how to work with faculty and what to think about as you are processing this with a student, but I also want you to think about some of these barriers. We'll talk about solutions, but think through what solutions you think would be helpful. Language and trust, definitely. Angie, if you would type a little bit more about that, because I think that is a very important point, what you mean by language and trust. Transportation, I think is a wonderful point. Do we pay for Uber to get people to us? Are students aware of the accommodation? Fears. This is especially, um, I know that this is a conversation that many universities are having of the different experience of students who are commuting, so commuter students, versus students who live on campus, and I think that that is important to think about, student survivors with disabilities who live on campus and the access that they have to support, versus student survivors with disabilities who are commuting and the lack of access they have to certain healing services, and I think a lot of this is how are these things going to be communicated. The guilt experienced and not wanting to be a burden. These are really good. Fear of being demonized for reporting, yes. So, we came up with a lot of barriers, but what are the solutions? Knowing all of this doesn't matter, unless there are ways to do something about it. So, in this next section, we're going to explore the solutions to removing some of these barriers that we've identified for survivors with disabilities, and these are obviously not the only solutions, but they are some of the most important ones. So, to begin, we're also going to do another exercise. I want you to think about this situation. A student with a disability discloses a sexual assault to your office, to the Title IX office or to disability services office, or even if you're working in a program outside of a school, a student with a disability comes in and says this is their experience. Think about the campus experience. What are the next steps of the people working on campus? Do they know immediately who to call or how to ask the student about their disability? Do the people working with these students feel confident in knowing what resources are available? Are there confidential avenues for students with a disability to report? And what training do you or other offices have they received around serving survivors with disabilities? These are really good questions if you're thinking about starting a training for offices on campus for how to better respond to survivors with disabilities disclosing assault. And here, I think it's important to note that one of the most important values held in sexual trauma work is confidentiality. When a survivor has a disability, this value does not suddenly disappear. When serving survivors with disabilities on campus, autonomy, self-determination, and self-identification are values that must be upheld through policy, procedure, and practice. There are many survivors with disabilities who do not want disability services to be involved in any way in the reporting of their assault or the services provided hereafter. A person with a disability may wish to keep their disability diagnosis private, even if the professional working with them is, quote unquote, sure they have a disability. So, what does someone do with a survivor with a disability? The most important thing is to maintain their confidentiality and follow their lead. Make sure there are policies in place that prioritize confidentiality of the person reporting or seeking services. Don't call disability services immediately or disclose or force the student to self-disclose, and I think this is even being mentioned in the chat pod as we're talking about having people feel comfortable with expressing this to the offices they are, what policies are in place for protecting, for trust and protecting people's confidentiality, um, communicating in ASL or using an interpreter, they are, um, they are such a private experience through that interpreter, so what policies are there to make this easier. So, the question is how do you walk the line between respecting autonomy and confidentiality and making things accessible? This is done by publicly advertising accessibility, by adding questions about need of accommodations on forms and in interviews, and by creating universally-designed spaces that welcome people with disabilities. When a person feels comfortable and accepted, they will feel more at home discussing their needs. So, what does that mean for connecting campus resources? How do you work collaboratively with each other if confidentiality and autonomy are strongly-held values? How does disability services, the Title IX office, student life, and residence life work together while maintaining people's confidentiality? This is primarily done through building strong relationships with other offices, and this should be done systemically, where it doesn't matter what individual occupies each role, but a relationship in which the department or office is created to seamlessly collaborate with another department or office. This shouldn't be in response to a specific incident or student, but holistically and universally, and part of this depends on developing a referral system between offices. This is a coordinated response that respects students' rights, while allowing offices to share information that is only approved by the student, and this kind of collaboration can be very beneficial for all involved. When a student is able to enter the system of care at every stage and at any office, they're more likely to receive exceptional healing services. Another solution to a barrier includes managing faculty and staff expectations. So, it's important here to dispel the myth of the double accommodation. One of the biggest concerns that I fielded from faculty is why is this student asking for double time, when they already get time and a half with their disability accommodations. Asking for things, like more flexibility with attendance and deadlines, often doesn't make sense to faculty, if they're not trained in trauma or working with survivors with disabilities. It's also important to remember that most Title IX investigators, residence life, and student life staff members are not trained in the specific concerns surrounding survivors with disabilities. The following list is important things, is a list of important things to include when training faculty and staff. So, for faculty, it's important for them to understand the impact of sexual assault on academics and the classroom experience, how sexual assault and disability can prompt an accommodation plan, how important sensitivity and competency is around disability and sexual assault. Types of training that is important for staff to understand, and this includes Title IX investigators and responders, are disability considerations in interviewing and accommodation, how to offer these and how to provide them. I'm going to go back for a second to look at this connecting campus resources graph and see how disability services, Title IX, student life, residence life, I think the other piece that needs to be included in there are also faculty and staff expectations, because the classroom is so important as well, so how do you include all of these people in a systemic, um, in the system in a response that's going to be coordinated and, um, a good response to serving survivors with disabilities on campus? And we're going to talk about that in a second. So, I think the first thing that we need to do is spot able-ism. When we think about working with survivors with disabilities, we have to think about how are we going to assess for able-ism within each point of receiving services. Able-ism can be structural, institutional, or individual, and it's the systemic discrimination or prejudice against people with disabilities. It's important for us to evaluate how and if able-ism is impacting services for survivors and how to fix those issues. So, on this slide, you can see examples of how able-ism can show up in different ways. Structural able-ism may look like the following; physical barriers, steps, no automatic doors, no accessible bathrooms, poor or no signage; inaccessible materials, no consideration for visual impairments, learning disabilities, etc.; events, marketing, these exclude people with disabilities, people with disabilities are not planned for, and the events are not accessible to them. Institutional able-ism might look like the following. We've talked about it with faculty and staff. Attitudes and behaviors that show people with disabilities are unwelcomed, so either ignoring or hostile, focus on financial burden rather than the burden to the survivor with the disability. We see that a lot on campus, where the concern is how much this is going to cost versus how can we do the right thing for the student, and then, finally, personal able-ism might look like the following, so the language somebody uses or the bias that somebody brings to doing this work. So, how do you correct these things when you see them? Especially in context of a bureaucratic system, like a university. There are four steps that you can take, no matter where you work or what your role is. First, you need to identify the problem, what's going on. Then you need to consult with other professionals and with people with disabilities on how these barriers affect survivors with disabilities. For the Title IX office, or for the counseling centers, this might look like pairing with disability services to think through how to make things most accessible or vice versa, this could be the Title IX office coming into disability services and talking about how things can be safer. Next, figure out a reasonable plan of action and change. Get around a table, figure out how are we going to fix this, what do we need to do, and then correct, to the best of your ability, the problem, and I think this will work for addressing most issues around able-ism, and thinking through other issues that require higher-level interventions, the most important thing that somebody can do is cultivate relationships with upper-level administration and find ways to present statistics on why that problem is important enough to correct. So, find the reason that people think that that's important, even if that means just retention, and come at it from that angle and work with them to see why it's important for you to effectively serve this population. I think one of the most important things to leave you with as we're thinking through this, and I'm going to leave time at the end for us to kind of have a conversation, a back and forth conversation, but I want you to think about these list of entry points, where accessibility can be prioritized, with printed materials, emotional videos, maps, parking, office access, advertising accommodations, first-responder training, Title IX interview training, take back the night, and other campus fundraisers, I want you to consider how the following affects these things, the type of disability somebody has, and the needs that they have. So, coming back to this, how would the type of disability impact the accessibility that you're providing and the needs? For printed materials, will you need to provide something in large print? Will you need to provide something in simple language? Do you need to caption your promotional videos? For maps and parking, do you have something labeled for where the accessible parking spaces are? For office access, are there steps to get to your office, or is there a way that somebody who uses a wheelchair or has a mobility disability can come into your office easily, without worrying about how much, um, attention they will attract for advertising accommodations, are these accommodations available online, on the website? Do students know before they come? Because students do a lot of research before they decide to, um, seek services, do students know before they come that accommodations are available to them in the office, or do they have to hunt for it and ask around? Are first-responder trainings talking ability disabilities, talking about the best ways to intervene with somebody who has a disability and different types of disability? Title IX interview training, are the interviewers who are talking to these students aware of how a different disability might impact the way that they give their interview? Take back the night and other campaign fundraisers, are these accessible to all people? Are they held in an accessible way? One example I've seen are people doing, um, a marathon or a 5K in high heels to bring awareness of sexual assault on campus, and my question would be, um, around the accessibility of this, what message does that send to people, um, who have a mobility disability? So, if you're going to prioritize these things, who do you talk to? How do you do it? That's going to be the importance of bringing people with disabilities, bringing students with disabilities, bringing disability service providers, um, and bringing healing services around a table to have these conversations and to be very, um, very aware and very intentional about the services that you're providing, making sure that when you're going into somebody's office, you don't have to go through the service entrance, because that's the only place that's accessible. So, in all of those ways, how do you prioritize access? And I kind of want to leave us, um, with a story. I mentioned briefly about emotional support animals near the beginning, and I wanted to come back to this point. So, when I was the director of disability services at my institution, I had two requests for emotional support animals related to survivors with disabilities, and after going through the Title IX process, I had a student who requested a cat and a student who requested a pig. Both of those requests were relevant to the student's particular context and their situations, and both of those requests were approved. So, it's important to always seriously consider the accommodation request and how the need for it may be completely understandable in the midst of trauma. I'm going to open up for one more question for you to think about in the chat pod and for us to discuss and give you time to think about this and write out your responses. What do you think you could do to better serve survivors with disabilities on campus? Add information about the Title IX office on disability services website, yes. Provide large print materials for support groups you run on campus. Be more clear about what accommodations you can provide while screening for support groups. So, a lot of this is about communication. Provide mandatory information to first-year students about supports for students with disabilities. Be approachable, patient, and seek services in different areas. Create multidisciplinary teams and bring support services into campus. Partner with local organizations that serve survivors and individuals with disabilities. Perhaps these organizations can provide on-campus training. So, this is a really good idea in how to, um, utilize your resources, especially since people on campus often feel strapped for time and resources, being able to partner with people could be a really good solution. Create prevention programming that includes and emphasizes students with disabilities. Make disability services accommodations clear on the advocacy, Title IX websites, and on purpose. Accessible for mobility, large print materials. Recruit more deaf volunteers. Reach out to disability office to see what training they provide to Title IX and law enforcement. Form relationships with Title IX offices. Very good. I think the other thing, um, as you guys are thinking through that, I think the other thing to think about is not only adding info on Title IX offices or in disability service offices about the resources, but really talking and digging deep into the fact that students with disabilities, survivors with disabilities, and the victimization rates are so much higher. They're more at risk, and, so, being able to name that and put that where students can see it, they might feel less alone, they might feel less stigma. The other thing that we didn't get to talk about really in-depth when we spoke on confidentiality is mandatory reporting. A lot of times, there is confusion, especially on a college campus, around disability and mandatory reporting, and what do we do, if somebody comes into Title IX, the Title IX office who has a disability and discloses it, and do we need to go ahead and be a mandatory reporter, and I think one of the, um, one of the things to that is we need to think through what the laws are and be aware, but also, understanding everybody's right to confidentiality and the ability to hold that as a really high, um, value is super important, and usually, um, working with your disability services providers can really help you talk that through and understand that. So, I'm going to move on to questions. Thank you so much for your time, and, hopefully, I can answer some things that, maybe, didn't get fleshed out in this presentation. >> SPEAKER: Thanks, Kaitlin. This is Ashley. I am opening it up for questions at this point. If you want to type them in either the chat pod or the Q & A pod, um, and we can go ahead, Kaitlin has generously left a lot of time for you all to ask questions, so I hope that if you are facing a significant barrier that you want to think through or there's a challenge you've been thinking of or something specific, um, or more general, that this is an opportunity to have that discussion with Kaitlin, as well as all of the other people who are on this webinar who seem to also be facing similar challenges, so maybe we can take this opportunity to come up with some solutions, if we don't even know of any. Again, you can put them in the chat pod or in the Q & A pod. So, Kaitlin, the first question is, um, a question about accessing resources for students with disabilities. The question is where do we access information for resources for students with disabilities? >> KAITLIN SHETLER: That's a really good question. Depending upon the institution that that student comes from or the state, there are different places that you can go, so, typically, um, hopefully, most college campuses will have a website that at least talks about disability services, and, so, on that website, there should be a list of resources for those students. One of the things that we're seeing is that, a lot of times, those, the sites and the resources that are available to people are, um, hidden, right, they're very difficult to find, you either have to do a lot of Googling, or you have to get in touch with other students who maybe have gone through it, so one of the things that we would like to see, and I think this, maybe, is where we can come to problem-solving, um, is trying to figure out where to get it. So, I just did a landscape analysis of, um, programs that kind of focused on this intersection of disability and victimization on college campuses. They're doing a really great job at getting all of that information out, but, really, there's not a lot available there. So, looking at national programs to kind of do, um, advocacy work is important, and then, also, there are a lot of schools who are doing a really neat thing right now called developing, like, a disability cultural center, and these have really had the most success on campus in getting out, um, all of the resources that are needed. So, one thing that I would do is I would see if anywhere in your location has a disability cultural center on campus. If not, that might be a really good thing to approach a campus with, on figuring out how to get one started. >> SPEAKER: Kaitlin, thank you. We also have, we have another question, um, asking about, um, what happens when a student reports being assaulted by a faculty member or a staff member, and is there any special considerations for those scenarios. >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Yes, definitely. So, a student is going to, I mean, some of these entry points depend upon where the student is reporting. Hopefully, the campus is going to already have something like this in place. Title IX offices work a lot on, um, these protocols, so that would be a question, I think, that would need to go to Title IX immediately, because they have the protocol to start that process, and, typically, I was never a Title IX coordinator, but I worked really closely with the Title IX office, and that would be something where the, um, faculty staff member would be suspended right away, they would go ahead and, um, probably encourage that student, if possible, to file an official report, so, um, all of those things would be handled through Title IX, but I think it's really important, um, to know that, sometimes, students with disabilities, the only connection they're making to staff and faculty on campus is going to be through disability services, more so than Title IX, more so, sometimes, even than the counseling center, so there needs to be a really good coordinated response, um, between Title IX and disability services, so that disability services can give them the right information. A lot of the mistakes that we might see somebody make who has not been trained to do that is going straight to that faculty member to ask them the question or, um, trying to get involved in a way that is unhelpful for that student. So, that's where we find training really important. >> SPEAKER: Thanks, Kaitlin. Um, another suggestion came through the Q & A pod, that the University of Arkansas has done a lot of work around students with disabilities on campus generally, and then, um, some of the university centers for excellence on developmental disabilities, or UCEDDs, have done some work on this, there's at least one in every state, and it might be on your campus, if you are a larger campus in your state, or it might be on another campus in your state, but they might be able to provide some resources as well. Does anyone else have any other questions or comments or suggestions for Kaitlin? So, Sandra has posted a question that asks how do we account for disability in consent policies? >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Would you be able to unpack that a little bit more? >> SPEAKER: Hi. Can y'all hear me? >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Yes. >> SPEAKER: Um, so, this is Sandra. So, I know that one of the things, when I worked on a college campus, um, here in Nashville, um, was that a lot of the work that the student advocates were doing were working to have access consent policies as part of their campus policies around sexual assault, and I was just raising the issue of, you know, um, active consent would require verbal consent, um, it would require that they check-in repeatedly, and if the person has a disability that, um, has, you know, impacted their ability to, um, provide, to give verbal consent, for instance, like, that intersection of, like, consent and disability, so I was just trying to see if you had done any thinking about that. >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Absolutely. Thank you so much. Yeah, that does, I feel like we see that a lot, I feel like that comes not only in those consent policies, but also just any messaging we see around sexual assault on campus, so I think that's a really good point to raise. I feel like those conversations are going to have to be a lot more thoughtful, and there needs to be people around the table who bring that up, so whether that's going to be, um, if that student led, um, making sure that the organization or the faculty member charge is kind of bringing up those tensions, and I think holding those tensions, I think the best way to do that is going to be really parsing out everything, so looking at every piece of that policy and, um, really examining it for that able-ism that we talked about a little bit earlier and seeing are there ways to show consent without having it be out loud, verbal. Um, I know that that was what our school would always say has to be a, um, has to be an enthusiastic yes, and, so, what does that mean? What does that mean when you are thinking through disability? Is that, um, is that clear enough? Does that, is that inclusive enough? And, so, I think those are great questions to ask, and I don't know if there is one answer that we could give right now that would make sense, as much as it would that's got to be thought about in the context of, um, each school, and if it's not, again, what happens is you leave people out, you leave people out of the conversation. >> SPEAKER: This is Sandra again. I think that there was a history of leaving, um, people with disabilities out of conversations, even when the sexual assault movement was moving towards more consent-based laws, and I see there's a comment in the Q & A, um, section that, um, many states' definition actually -- when you become more and more, um, committed to active consent or, um, so, yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to throw you there, Kaitlin. You did a fabulous job on the webinar. It was just, I couldn't type it all in the chat. >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Thank you. I just, I think that that is a great question. I think the idea of consent, the idea of mandatory reporting, the idea of disability, there's a lot that has to be unpacked, um, just bias wise, um, when people come to this conversation, if they haven't had these conversations before, and, so, um, I think it's very easy for some people who are new to the work to not ask some of these questions, and so I would say that, probably, the one thing that I would want to leave everybody with is just the fact that let's get the conversation rolling, let's have these, let's bring this up, let's really unpack and examine, because it's worth it, we need to do it, and it's beyond time. >> SPEAKER: Kaitlin, this is Ashley. Again, there was also a comment that came through that we need to be having conversations with students, um, even probably before college, about what healthy sexuality looks like and healthy sexual relationships in order to start having those conversations about consent as well. Just wanted to highlight that as a point that was made. >> KAITLIN SHETLER: That's a great point. >> SPEAKER: Um, another question that came up is some of what you went through, um, was around providing accommodations. Do you have any suggestions for perhaps a Title IX office who hasn't really thought about providing, um, a wide variety of accommodations in the past about how to start the process of seeing how accessible their programming materials are and some resources for increasing the accessibility of those programming and resources? >> KAITLIN SHETLER: Yes, absolutely. So, um, for most Title IX offices, this is where I would say, um, tomorrow, or today, after we get off of this webinar, make your connection with disability services. That office is going to understand not only the law when it comes to reasonable accommodations that they have to provide due to a disability, but they are going to have a plethora of information on the different types of accommodations that that office needs to start thinking, be thinking through. So, definitely, that would be my first suggestion, is to reach out to disability services. That's kind of like your basic, go ahead, they're on campus, you can do that. I think the next step that really needs to happen is for these offices to reach out to local and national disability organizations, because the disability organizations are really going to have an idea of how to place accommodations in a holistic context and how to express that best to your students on campus. Another great resource is the Association on Higher Education and Disability. AHEAD has chapters in every state, so you could reach out to your state chapter and have this conversation. These are professionals, um, who work with students with disabilities in universities and on colleges, and they have years and years of experience to do that, so every state has an AHEAD chapter, and there's a national organization, and there are tons of resources on that website and tons of resources on those local websites. So, being able to kind of have that multidisciplinary approach, talking to disability services on campus, talking to your disability service organizations in your community, um, and then seeking out information from AHEAD, um, I think is going to get you started on the right track, but, also, making sure that this conversation actually includes survivors with disabilities and students with disabilities. >> SPEAKER: Thanks, Kaitlin. Are there any other questions for Kaitlin today? 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